Monday, May 11, 2009

Red Tapism at its Best: Read this one from Kerala

This is a real thing that happened to my friend. My friend M, who did bachelors with me, is now working in a software company at Technopark and they want to start the process of applying for his non immigration visa to US. The company wanted him to submit the mark list of all the 8 semesters and the final B Tech certificate to start the process of applying for the visa. My friend misplaced the mark list of the 5th semester. He couldn’t find that at all. But he has the mark list of all the other semesters, the final consolidated mark list and the degree certificate too. 

The company told him that they cannot initiate the process of visa application without the entire mark list. Now my friend contacted the University where he studied. This is the process he had to go through to get the missing mark list. 

  1. Go to University/College and get the register number/month & year of exam for the lost mark list.
  2. You have to give an advertisement in local news paper with the register number/month & year of semester exam. Also state in the advertisement that you have irrecoverably lost the mark list (probably how also).
  3. After two weeks, you need to get an affidavit from district magistrate. You should not go to a notary. (They may ask for the advertisement, and you need to produce the whole newspaper, not just paper cutting)
  4. Go to university; fill up the application form/pay the fees along with affidavit and the whole newspaper with advertisement.
  5. Wait for the mercy of the section officers.

In the first place I cannot understand why the company is insisting to have each semester mark list. My friend had the consolidated mark list and the degree certificate. Then why bother about a semester mark list? Why can’t a university identify the person and issue another mark list? Why do they have to make people run from pillar to post?

What age are we living?

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Blogger Static Variable said...

i dont think separate mark lists are required, consolidated mark list is enough for the embassy. looks like the company is keeping itself safe.

but i certainly did not know of the procedure to reapply for a lost marksheet.If this was known to us before, lot of people would be more careful.which university ?

May 11, 2009 11:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hahaha... people are losers

May 11, 2009 3:43 PM  
Blogger Brijesh Nair said...

@Static Variable

May 11, 2009 3:48 PM  
Anonymous Siva said...

I dont understand why the company needs individual mark sheet when he has consolidated one.

But i totally understand the procedure involved in this. we are living in a dangerous world and government should follow certain procedure to safegaurd its citizens. you never know some terrorists may obtain these kinds of documents to plan some unfortunate things.

Everyone should sacrifice somthing inorder to be safe. if something bad happens, people like you will be immediately blogging criticizing the government for not doing enough.

May 15, 2009 3:58 AM  
Blogger S said...

@ Static Variable
Since there is an increasing tendency for holding the visa sponsor responsible for any fraud, people are plain playing safe. My University for instance asks you to get your Foreign Educational Credentials verified by an independent law firm. This means all mark sheets and then paying them a couple of hundred dollars just to say that you have real degree and your PhD is a equal to a US PhD, etc.

@ Siva
Could you please explain to me how this entire procedure adds anything to the security. Do you think someone will notice the ad and catch a fraud. Have you ever seen one of these ads? Don't you think it better for the person responsible for it in college to verify the identity of the individual with whatever appropriate document (passport, election card, etc.)? Is the district magistrate contributing anything different to this?

May 15, 2009 10:15 PM  
Anonymous shyam said...

"Why can’t a university identify the person and issue another mark list?" - but Brijesh how will the University identify the person. The point is they need proof that the marklist is lost.
I dont think there is anything wrong with the procedure. The problem is the pace at which it works.
Its your friend Mr. M who lost his own marklist. Its his own problem. Not the University's.

May 16, 2009 7:00 PM  

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