Monday, October 29, 2007

To All H1B Seekers – Beware of Hidden Traps

Ever since I wrote the post “Evil Called Desi Consultants”, I get lot of emails and comments in my blog asking me advice in identifying good consultants that sponsor HIB for jobs in USA. The main thing I have seen in those chats is that most people who apply for H1B visa from India are not aware of all the rules and various “traps” associated with this. This post is intended as a guideline for all those applying for H1B visa from India. First I would like to talk about 2 of my friends who were cheated in the whole H1B process last year.

This friend P was my colleague in a software company I worked in Chennai. He changed few companies since then – all in the hope that his new company will send him to his dream land – US. All his attempts to come to US through the company he was working failed. So he decided to apply for his H1B visa through a consultant. He was working in Chennai and he was talking to an agent of the consultant based in Hyderabad. The consultant offered him great deals ($80,000 per year, 1 year paid vacation and full pay on bench etc etc). For the consultant to file for his H1B, he had to pay 3 lakh Indian rupees (approximately $8000). He decided to file his H1B through this consultant. A representative of the consultant came over to Chennai and collected the money from him. There was no proof of the money transfer between my friend and the consultant. The consultant informed him that he has filed his H1B on April 1st. This year US Citizen and Immigration Services (USCIS) received almost double the number of H1B applications and they employed a lottery system to select 65,000 H1B visas.

One fine morning in July the agent of the consultant called and informed that he couldn’t make it through the lottery. The agent promised to pay him back the money as soon as he gets the money from the consultant back in US. This was the last he has heard from the consultant. My friend did all the talking over phone to the agent of the consultant and now that number is not working. He was royally cheated by some thug. He doesn’t even have any proof of the money he gave to the consultant. I still cannot believe how a person can give Rs. 3,00,000 to some one without any proof. Maybe he was thinking about the dollars he is going to earn once he lands in the US and made him lose his common sense.

This is about another of my friend S. We stayed in the same mansion in Chennai. He was working in a good software company in Chennai with a good pay even when I was in India 6 years back. He was not that interested in coming to US. I believe his wife and he could be earning around Rs 80,000 to Rs 1,00,000 per month in India and he was very happy with that. With that salary you can lead a royal life in India. But his problem in his own words “however good you are in your work, if you don’t have an US experience you don’t command respect from colleagues and you are constantly looked down in a group that has people who have work experience in US”.

So to command respect from his colleagues my friend started looking out for consultants that can apply for his H1B visa. He landed with a consultant and he ended up paying around Rs. 2,00,000 to process his H1B visa. He was lucky to get through the lottery and he was very happy about it. So far so good. This September end he went to US consulate in Chennai for visa stamping. He got a 221g from the Consulate asking him to produce the end client letter. He got in touch with the consultant for the new document, they told him that they are just a start up company, they don’t have a client now and it is tough to get such a letter. He is kind of resigned to the fact that he cannot go for visa stamping with this consultant and asked them to pay back the money he gave them for H1B filing. They told that USCIS has already taken the money and they cannot return the money.

For my friend P he lost his money and visa while the friend S just lost the money. My understanding is that friend S can still transfer his H1B to a different consultant and go for a visa stamping. I am sure these stories are not isolated ones. Software engineers in India trying to come to the US may have hundreds of stories like this to tell.

DO’s and DON’T’s

I am a firm believer that these kind of “traps” can be avoided if one uses ones common sense and does some research before paying the money. Most of them who apply for H1B visas from India get carried away by the lucrative prospects the consultant tells them prior to applying for H1B visa and get money from them. The applicants thus blindfolded, believe the consultants and fall into their trap. Here are some pointers you can follow and thus avoid getting cheated.

  • Paying any consultant for your H1B is illegal by law. If a consultant asks for money to file for a H1B visa, understand one thing – they are in this business to make some quick bucks with zero investments. Bottom line – NEVER PAY A PENNY TO A CONSULTANT FOR H1B. If you pay and get a H1B at some point there is a good chance that it make come back and hurt you.
  • Before you select your consultant for filing H1B visa do some basic homework. The easiest way is to Google search and you may be able to find more about the consultant. You may be able to hit upon some positive or negative comments about the consultant. But when you do that beware of few things – Consultants may write good reviews of themselves and post it in the internet to fool a prospective employee. Also another thing, some shady consultants do change the name of the company often or some of the consultants may have more than one consultancy. When a consultant finds that his consultancy is blacklisted by the USCIS the easiest thing for him to do is to start another company with another name. So if the Google search returns no result or only a good result don’t think the consultant is good. This is just the first step. The consultant “may” be good.
  • Once you find out that the consultant “may” be good, the next step is to try and find out someone who has worked/working with that consultant. With the advancement in information technology it may not be tough to find someone who actually works for the consultant. If possible talk to them over phone. Try to avoid accepting offers from consultants who just started their business. Any permanent resident in US can start a consultancy and most of the times the thought of quick bucks make them do that. Lack of professionalism will be hallmark of such companies and try your best not to join such companies.
  • If the consultant who is going to hire you doesn’t care about your educational qualification, your experience etc and tells you that you are sure to get a well paying job and doesn’t conduct any interview before hiring you in their consultancy, then you are in for trouble. Those consultants just need “human bodies” and not your expertise.
  • Another thing I have noticed about people applying for H1B visa from India. They will tell “Let me first somehow land in US through some consultant and then once I am in US somehow I can manage something better”. This attitude makes them pay for the visa and file H1B with shady consultants. This way of thinking not only invites trouble for them but denies another genuine candidate who has a “real job” in hand, a visa.

Before taking all the pain in India to apply for H1B through these consultants just remember thing one – With the declining dollar value and increasing job opportunities in India is it worthwhile to land in the US with a visa sponsored by a shady consultant, sit on bench for a long period of time and struggle to get a job?

Related Post: H1B Visa – It is Skilled Job Visa and Not Cheap Labor Visa

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76 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nair,
wonderful blog. very useful!

October 29, 2007 2:09 PM  
Blogger Brijesh said...

Anon @7:09 AM
Thanks

October 30, 2007 1:10 AM  
Blogger Patrick Thibodeau said...

Good post. May put a pointer to your blog. Contact me if you can. I write for a tech publication.

October 30, 2007 2:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think that only consultants are cheating. There are many IT companies doing same. few companies are exploiting the loop holes in US immigration laws and no one can track them. I can give a reference of a such a company A-1 technology Inc(115 broadway, manhattan, NY) & A-1 Technology Pvt Ltd (India) (www.a1technology.com).
This company has sneaky way to hire people on H-1 using all worng means.
They hire people in India at their Delhi & Chandigarh branches then they file their H-1 Visa and force them to sign legal agreement in India on legal stamp paper (bond worth 2 Lacs) with statement that they can't leave the job in US for specified period of time more than 2 yrs approximately otherwise they have return the said amount or they can intiate legal proceedings.
They also misuse B-1 Visa as they invite people from their Indian offices to US and place them at various client side location to work as H-1 worker do and they bill their clients as they do for H-1. They exploit the consultants as they can't file H-1 for other companies in US during their H-1 visit or can't leave the job in middle or come back to US. They have filed more than 6 cases in New York supreme court against their employees on fake grounds like they incurred loss and taking advantage of the fact that a guy from India don't know how to defend against such a big company and don't have enough money to take care of legal cases.
Bottom line is there are bad desi company like A-1 Technology exists and you can't help it.
You can use this blog as precaution to avoid such a trap but honestly you can't help it...

October 31, 2007 6:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think that only consultants are cheating. There are many IT companies doing same. few companies are exploiting the loop holes in US immigration laws and no one can track them. I can give a reference of a such a company A-1 technology Inc(115 broadway, manhattan, NY) & A-1 Technology Pvt Ltd (India) (www.a1technology.com).
This company has sneaky way to hire people on H-1 using all worng means.
They hire people in India at their Delhi & Chandigarh branches then they file their H-1 Visa and force them to sign legal agreement in India on legal stamp paper (bond worth 2 Lacs) with statement that they can't leave the job in US for specified period of time more than 2 yrs approximately otherwise they have return the said amount or they can intiate legal proceedings.
They also misuse B-1 Visa as they invite people from their Indian offices to US and place them at various client side location to work as H-1 worker do and they bill their clients as they do for H-1. They exploit the consultants as they can't file H-1 for other companies in US during their H-1 visit or can't leave the job in middle or come back to US. They have filed more than 6 cases in New York supreme court against their employees on fake grounds like they incurred loss and taking advantage of the fact that a guy from India don't know how to defend against such a big company and don't have enough money to take care of legal cases.
Bottom line is there are bad desi company like A-1 Technology exists and you can't help it.
You can use this blog as precaution to avoid such a trap but honestly you can't help it...

October 31, 2007 6:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But what about those people who exactly play the game otherwise. What about people who come to USA with one employer and then jump ship to another company for a 5k raise?? Do you guys realize that the company receives money for the work the consultant does, around 3 months?? what if the vendor files for bankruptucy before the company sees a single penny?

I am not saying that desi consultants are saints and the people coming from India are thugs. I think we have to see the situation as a whole and as there are bad companies so are bad people.

Can you point to any job posting in USA which asks for experience of less than 5 years? How do you think one can get a break without some one giving him/her a chance? Here come the fake resumes

Even companies like TCS, WIPRO and IBM in USA beef up resumes. It is all part of the system. A few of the people who come to US and get *treated* with a desi consultant eventually open up a consulting firm themselves. Though they try to do things sincerely, it is the system which makes them bad.

DISCLAIMER: I dont want people to think that I am supporting these third grade consulting companies but just asking you guys to have a different perspective too. In the end as this author said, " Common Sense" should prevail. But these days it is not so common to find it.

October 31, 2007 9:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A company by the name of Central Business Solutions is one such company. They are total cheats. They make you pay for the H1...make false promises. So beware!

November 02, 2007 12:20 PM  
Blogger Brijesh said...

Anon @ 11.24 AM and Anon @ 5.20 AM
Good that people like you are coming out open with the name of the companies. It will help some one to avoid these companies in the future.

Anon @2.54 PM
Yes I agree with you that the system has so many loopholes that people are misusing.

November 02, 2007 7:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Learn more about H-1Bs and Green Cards by reading this debate:

http://advice.cio.com/rob_sanchez/wadhwamania

November 02, 2007 7:55 PM  
Blogger Siva said...

Nice post. My friend S successfully managed to take a risk without paying a penny to his consultant. All he did was give his passport to process his visa.

November 06, 2007 10:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are very much right in all aspects. I want to add some points here and help people out there lookign for H1's. Btw I am also an H1 applicant, ya still an applicant. I wont get the visa. I applied through a company where my college senior is right now working. I paid them 1000$ as a deposit. This I did coz i know my senior is working there and i know i am safe. And this 1000$ will be refunded once i join them in the US. Its more of a deposit i lose, just in case if i dont join them after getting the visa. Fair enough. But 3lakhs is too much, the H1 petition will itself costs around 3k $ only (1.5 lakhs).
Point to be noted: Trust a company, only if you know some one personally who is working there. I am sure everyone will have atleast one friend, one college mate or some contacts working in the US.

Everything went fine till the visa stamping. When i went for the interview, the US consulate (in chennai) asked me a lot of supporting documents (like project report, marketing analysis) by giving me a 221g form. Offlate this form is very common. Chennai consulate gives it to almost every h1 applicant. This is where i miserably failed. My prospective employer had no responsibilities to post the docs even after 11 months now. My petition will expire in a few days and it will all be over.
Point to be noted: Talk to the consultant before itself and file H1 with him only if he will be able to provide complete documentation for the visa interview.

I have lost 2 years of my valuable time in this coz of the lack of professionalism from the prospective employer. I did undergo a lot of stress, but the prospective employer is going to give my deposit back.

There is no way for a talented job seeker to get a job directly with a US company, unless otherwise the US company sends its employee from here. Something like tcs, microsoft india.. No company in the US wants to wait for 6 months nor do they want to get into the visa hassles. So most of the guys have to go through consultants and switch to companies there. Also candidates who go thru conusultants should make a point to work for atleast 6 months, so that the consultant atleast takes his H1b cost out of the candidate.

At the end of the day people have to be people, not some money sucking maniacs.
If any of you have any questions in terms of h1b, feel free to mail me at
writeto.sreedhar@gmail.com
I will be more than happy to help people in this regard.

November 06, 2007 3:06 PM  
Blogger rathi said...

Brijesh,
Very informative blog. It is an vision opener for all the US job aspirants. Now India is offering promising opportunities for educated people and lets hope this craze for going to US will recede.Do write such interesing and useful articles.

November 11, 2007 11:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

will the visa officer or someone will do background check of our resume? Can anyone help me..

November 16, 2007 8:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Help regarding H-1B transfer

Hi,
I'm having a H-1B visa which I got through a company. But I never went to US with that visa. Please anyone let me know whether is it possible to transfer that visa to another company.

November 22, 2007 6:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello,
I was in the US for a couple of years and before I left that place, I had initiated my H1 transfter process ( with a consultant - I paid him the transfer fee in advance ); I wanted to be in India for a few months and return to US - my H1 transfer was approved but now this guy ( the consultant - who is actually a friend ) wants me to sign a contract in India for Re 6 lakhs otherwise he is not ready to send the papers for my stamping; I'm planning to sue this guy..

Would appreciate everyone in this forum to share similar experiences...
Thanks.

December 01, 2007 1:44 PM  
Blogger Brijesh said...

Siva,
That is what I wrote. There are good ones out there but the challenge is you have to spend time to find that out.

Anon @ 8.06 AM
Yes I have heard a lot of stuff like these recently. Hope this bitter experience made you a better person and wishing you luck next time.

Rathi
Thanks

Anon @ 1.53 PM
As far as I know there is no specific process called background check for resumes. But if the VO smells something fishy he would reject your visa or issue a pink slip or 221G. To be on the safer side it is always better not to spice up the resume with fake experience.

Anon @ 11.25 AM
Technically you can transfer your visa to another company.

Anon @ 6.44 AM
This is a blog and not a forum. You can go to the following forum and search for answers.

http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic

There are tons of questions similar to what you have asked and answers for those.

December 02, 2007 6:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Beware of one more company,
Marlabs Inc located in NJ.
They make you sign a bond worth 20,000$ - $30,000 which you owe them,
if you quit them before 1 year after you are placed in the client project.
They don't pay on bench, nor train/market properly.

Marlabs has offices in Bangalore, India as well, the agony is they are pretty grown up by now and they do lots of injustice to folks who bring a lot of indians to US as well.

January 07, 2008 6:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please don't donate any money to consultant/agents.

The consultancy firm/any firm is supposed to bear all the h1b expenses(h1b fees etc), the employee paying money for his h1b expense is not legal and in fact the employee can sue the company if you have evidence of them asking you money for this.

Check these websites for more details

www.murthy.com/h1bfaqs.html

www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/H1BFAQs.htm

www.h1bfraud.com/

January 07, 2008 7:02 PM  
Anonymous poo said...

That was unbeatable!!... u actually read my thoughts and posted em!..i am in a similar dilemma and was dying to get some tips and ur blog has proved to be ultra useful to me...thanks a lot for sharing your stories...it has really helped..and the end was just too perfect!!...kudos!..i am simply amazed..honestly..i was just browsing google for such H1b stuff and found ur blog...so u can imagine how happy i was to read this write up...it was like finding some treasure!..:)

January 31, 2008 4:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

one such company..........SRG AMERICA, Iselin,New Jersey

They are bloodsucking bastards!!

February 07, 2008 11:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Guys,
I am a fellow IT worker, want to tell u something about One really bad Company.
Number One Fraud is Recursive Technologies, Inc. (www.recursivetech.com) Situated at 1440, Yankee Park Place, Dayton, Ohio - 45458.
The name of the owner is Amar Trichy AKA Amarnath M Triruchirappalli.
This guy works at some company as a consultant and have started this Shit Company. He is always busy with his good paying job and don't even care about his employees, who are on bench. He charges full fees (3000$) for H1-B.
He also have an office in Hyderabad, India. They have a marketing team over there, who does nothing, but spam your fake resume and gets you Black listed at major primary vendors and end client companies.
He wont pay you a penny on the bench period and will make you go broke. I know personally few guys of his company who were on bench from a long time, Longer that you can imagine.
BEWARE OF HIM.
This guy is an expert in sweet talk.

February 12, 2008 2:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's so helpful.....
Thanks a lot for such a great post.....

February 16, 2008 3:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great info. Really, sincere appreciation to all of you for your knowledge sharing on H1b. It will really help many many people.

I want to share my experiences with senior folks claiming FAKE exeriences. I have a different perspective on H1bs, actually I truly like them. They work hard to delivery.

In general, the entire recruiting process in IT is messed up. WE are part of the problem. People throw 7 or 8 years exp. when they have zero experience. I am not saying everyone does this, but many.

It is sad to see the state of affairs in USA. The notion of people becoming "CLEAN" after getting Green Cards really is NOT true. In some cases, it becomes WORSE.

Quite frankly, for next 20 years, as long as Supply Chain exists, America will be a great place. Guaranteed. But the catch, is if you know "how to do your job". I say, almost 6 out of 10 Indian folks dont LEARN first but want to get paid. This is a BIG problem. Some even if they can learn, they dont want, because, if they learn, they have to do the job. Instead, they will find a reason, this and that. and stay away from learning. True, this happens. Somehow, they keep on surviving.

Quite frankly, H1b aspirants do a much better job because they are "HUNGRY". About a month ago, we were looking for a skillsets, even willing ot pay $150 per hour. We wasted time in reviewing EXPERT junk resumes. All 4 out of 4 resumes are from Indian community. It was SAD to sit next to my american boss and interview these fake resumes. At the end we gave up. How can a person who wants to charge $150/hour, dont know, how to do Vlookup in MS Excel. It takes 5 min. to learn. At the end, we ended up sending our junior most H1b candidate for a quick training somewhere (he is actually a contractor to us). We worked HARD and got the job done. We selected him becasue, he was HONEST and said, I am willing to learn. He used to bill at $70. We raised his rate to $90. His company was SURPRISED pleasantly.

So, my point is this: "We" are part of the cheating process. Lets address the problem. If someone wants to learn, there are ten thousand ways in america. Dont you think so ? I am in this field for 12 years, I am still learning every day.

February 23, 2008 12:39 PM  
Anonymous Mike said...

I am form California, This year-end; I planned to make tour to India. I need details about
Tourist India visa and important tourist place in India. Let me know, if any know.

March 06, 2008 6:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

good one and more informative.

March 08, 2008 12:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ditto for Marlabs Inc as above. Do not go by the comapny's size and the promises it makes. The company manages to sweet-talk, and then the fine print comes forward much later. They are cheats! Beware of this company.

March 18, 2008 12:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey some body says about SRG amrica as blood sucking bastard.what happened.......coz i have been contacted by them....so i wanna know it befor hand even befor talking to them..........so can some body tell me more about SRG AMERICA.......

March 24, 2008 8:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good Job!!!!
When India is offering so many jobs, why everyone want to go to America? To earn more money?.....to get cheated by these leeches/
Good eye opener to all the aspirants.

March 30, 2008 7:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My nephew was contacted by these consultancies, who promised him everything he wanted in US, but wanted 1,00,000 lakh bebfore April for the Visa. But after reading from this blog, he gave up his idea. Thanks a lot.Indians who go there and suffering due to this consultancy, never reveal this to the other Inidians about their plight. so others are not warned and fall into the same pit of agony. This is an eye opener to others.

March 31, 2008 10:21 AM  
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April 29, 2008 7:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SRG AMERICA headquatered in New Jersey cheated me and my friend and when we asked our money back they started bullshitting. Once i started browsing I came to know that this company has the least reputation in USA

April 29, 2008 7:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Marlabs cheets .... Beware of Marlabs... Stay away from marlabs

May 05, 2008 8:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Marlabs cheats you.Dont work on perdiem or percentage basis with them they some how hold your money and cheat you

May 07, 2008 8:55 PM  
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June 06, 2008 6:54 AM  
Blogger Tariq said...

Hi,

Nice blog and good write up.

We all know that its against the law to charge money from candidates for their H1-B Visa processing.

However, do you know exactly the statute or the laws of USCIS, meaning the exact wording or thereof which states that this is unlawful??

I would appreciate if you can let us know so that we can also read it on the website.

Regards,
Tariq

June 06, 2008 6:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dept of Labor has it very clear. Not paying on becnh is illegal. A person is considered on bench if the employment is not properly terminated. For proper termination , employer must do three things

1) inform H1B holder.

2) Inform INS

3) Give ticket to home country.

Look at all these cases

http://www.oalj.dol.gov/PUBLIC/INA/REFERENCES/CASELISTS/LCA_DECISIONS.HTM

Also emplotyer must post LCA in prominent place.

July 08, 2008 6:39 PM  
Blogger Sriram said...

My wife is working for Materials Software System.I am currently on H4.They have an in house project which matches my skill set.I am even being paid in H4.They are very genuine in paying and dont cheat.

August 05, 2008 1:15 AM  
Blogger sudhir said...

Pls d'nt choose consultant like PCBAPPS inc which will pinch you, at the end.
AS it is in Black list in US ambasy it is not able to process not more that 2 amount 20 for yer 2007-08

August 30, 2008 11:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for this blog. My friend works for Recursive Technologies, Inc. This is true what they said about this company. I feel really bad for my friend who has not worked since he has been here which is about 1 year now. Can anyone please tell me what I can do to help him? I could tell you the details of what they make him do but I don't want to get into that. If someone could please help me??? Beware of Recursive Technologies, Inc http://www.recursivetech.com/. Please email me at cutehouse2001@yahoo.com. This is my personal email. Thanks!

October 12, 2008 9:27 AM  
Blogger BataSari said...

Hi, Its good too see this blog. I have been into a critical situation, could you please help me.

My problem is: I got H1b this year and went to us consulate. But in my experience as per many of my friends request I took 1 year fake experience and submitted. I had so confident till go to the consulate. after having 2 questions from VO they asked me to sit for some time. After 2 hrs waiting they took me some place inside and said we found you came with fake experince so please agree and co operate us so you will not invite big troubles to ur professinal life. Since I was scared hearing that words and agreed and they written on white paper and took my sign also. finally VO asked me to write that I am withdrawing petiption. and she also signed on that and gave my passport back and one blue slip marked tick at 'sending for further review for USICS'. ANd said dont do next time all the best.

I informed my cuurent employer as Iam working with the same company and applied H1 also with the same.and yet to get the conclusion whats the final result. I was not intrested to keep that fake since my friends were encouraging me so forcefully I had agrred to keep that and now I got big trouble.

Please help me by giving some suggetions and possibilities. And If I joined next company and they do any kind of visa so what abt my situation? I am in deep trouble could anybody please save me by giving some guidance.

Pls post your valuble reply to ramsdream@gmail.com.

Thanks.

October 22, 2008 7:03 AM  
Blogger Brijesh Nair said...

batasari,

You cannot have false documents while going for visa interview. It is true that lot of Indians do use fake experience certificate while they go for interview. Most of them will be lucky but a very few gets caught. I am very sorry that you are the one of that unlucky guys.

Providing a false document knowingly during visa interview is a big crime. What I suggest is that you contact a good immigration lawyer.

Your case is in further review So if the USCIS come back and says that you have forged the document then it will be too tough to get a visa in the near future.

Even if you go to US embassy for visa with another company there are very good chance that they will know that your visa was once rejected for producing false experience letter. There is a column in the visa application form that ask "Was your visa rejected earlier" or something like that.

Bottom line is "Never lie to a visa officer". I am not an expert in immigration matters. You can post this question is forums like murthy (http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic) and some one who is more knowledgeable can give you more accurate answers.

October 27, 2008 11:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello all,
This is about a company called Material Software systems (MSS).
This company is based in Richmond, VA.
Entire management is family run.

I was working for this company for 6months and here is the 'tip of an iceberg' for ya all. Please be aware.

1. Entire management is from one family. No outsiders..except 1 - think his name is Raghav.
They ask you to pay the H1b processing fee / Air fare , which is Illegal. And remember, they will never pay it back. I've checked this with other poor fellas of this company. Personally, I never got it back.

2. They say they are in this IT consulting business for 10 years now. They can't even speak or write fair english. What a joke!!!

3. Your will not be paid when ur bench. But when they interview you before you apply for H1b they say 'WE WONT ALLOW YOU TO BE IN BENCH FOR MORE THAN ONE MONTH' - this is a joke again.. remember MSS don't have any kinda of direct clients (i think they have jus one). so you are more likely to be in bench for atleast 2-3 months - Gauranteed. if your not good enough with the competent market, you are likely to be in bench for 4 -8 months
That's cool right?

4. When it comes to pay rate, there is lots N lots scandal which is going inside. I cannot give the deatils here, unfortunalely.

I writing this, because I really want to help my friends out there, who aspire to come the land of free America with high hopes.

DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

by the way, i came this blogger 'SRIRAM' - be aware, he must me another insider.

October 28, 2008 12:05 AM  
Anonymous Helpmebro said...

This is regarding -
Hello all,
This is about a company called Material Software systems (MSS) .
This company is based in Richmond, VA.
Entire management is family run.

I was working for this company for 6months and here is the 'tip of an iceberg' for ya all. Please be aware.

1. Entire management is from one family. No outsiders..except 1 - think his name is Raghav.
They ask you to pay the H1b processing fee / Air fare , which is Illegal. And remember, they will never pay it back. I've checked this with other poor fellas of this company. Personally, I never got it back.

2. They say they are in this IT consulting business for 10 years now. They can't even speak or write fair english. What a joke!!!

3. Your will not be paid when ur bench. But when they interview you before you apply for H1b they say 'WE WONT ALLOW YOU TO BE IN BENCH FOR MORE THAN ONE MONTH' - this is a joke again.. remember MSS don't have any kinda of direct clients (i think they have jus one). so you are more likely to be in bench for atleast 2-3 months - Gauranteed. if your not good enough with the competent market, you are likely to be in bench for 4 -8 months
That's cool right?

4. When it comes to pay rate, there is lots N lots scandal which is going inside. I cannot give the deatils here, unfortunalely.

I writing this, because I really want to help my friends out there, who aspire to come the land of free America with high hopes.

DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

by the way, i came this blogger 'SRIRAM' - be aware, he must me another insider
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If anybody need more info about Material Software systems - email to helpmebro@yahoo.com

October 28, 2008 1:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even one of the consultancy Bpm labs changed their name to Bi labs now..So be aware of that company too..They have 90 percent of h1 failure case.since they r blacklisted.TO get H1 ,they jus change the name of the company every yr and they dont handover ur h1 approval notice,incase if u get approved.They dont pay you wen ur in bench. They dont pay you properly .No paystub .They dont find you project.And make u to sit for ever wout placing u in client side.

December 04, 2008 7:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All i could see is the ignorance of your friend and why do people feel that going to US is like holy place, it is just a another country. If the person has enough knowledge you can get paid in India.

December 09, 2008 4:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey all,

I too got offers from the consultants but I don't have means to know the credibility of those consultants.Not sure of whom to trust and whom to not.
Please anybody have any reviews or feedback then please share with us.
The consultants are
Horizon IT ventures --- Hyderabad
Nex Talent solution --- Pune

Your views will save others from the traps.
Thanks

January 12, 2009 4:00 PM  
Blogger Brijesh Nair said...

the best way to find out about a company is to talk to people who are working/worked there. These companies changes name almost every year. So the best way to find out about a company is to find a person who worked/working there.

January 13, 2009 5:41 AM  
Anonymous sharmila said...

Hey,
Even I got an offer from NexTalent. But Pkg is very less compared to previous year offers. Is that bcoz of recession?
Shall I go ahead with the offer?

January 29, 2009 3:02 AM  
Blogger Brijesh Nair said...

sharmila
Almost all the companies are doing bad here and the best thing you can do before you make a decision is contact some one working for that company and get details.

January 29, 2009 3:26 AM  
Blogger Indhu said...

Hi

Thanks for such a wonderful blog u have written.It was great reading and i came to know some true facts.

Can u tell me any good consultants in chennai or in bangalore so that i can file my H1B visa.
It would be a great great great help from ur side.Else how i can i file my H1b visa?
Please,help me

February 09, 2009 6:49 AM  
Blogger Brijesh Nair said...

Indu,
If I were you I wont come to US now. Things are so bad that it is too tough to get a job.

February 10, 2009 1:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice post. Most of the desi consulting companies do take undue advantage of Indians who don't know much about H1B. I even know cases where they were ready to file H1B for fresh graduates. It is important to weed those companies out and purify the system.

One correction to your blog - US Consulates do not issue RFE at the time of visa interview. They issue 221g forms. RFE is issued by USCIS at the time of approving petitions.

February 21, 2009 8:57 PM  
Blogger Brijesh Nair said...

Anon @ 1:57 Pm
Thanks. Corrected RFE to 221g

February 22, 2009 5:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hello,
just wanted to get feedback from you about the consultant www.intsystech.com...are they genuine? should i go with him?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

February 23, 2009 12:43 PM  
Blogger Prashant said...

Anonymous, seriously, did you NOT read this post by the author? Do you not have any access to news, internet and media there in India?

Things are not getting better here, there is a massive contraction going on. People with a lot of experience are now jobless. The prospects of your consultant ripping you off (by taking your money and then having you sit around without a job and without pay) are extremely high, if not guaranteed.

Unless you find a company willing to sponsor you directly for an H1-b, I would strongly urge you to not waste your money on consultant in the hope of coming here. You will be disappointed.

March 06, 2009 5:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi,i am on H4 and currently in US last 8 months and willing to file H1 for 2009 if any one can help me with few consultants who can file visa for me,i am asq certified six sigma black blet,witn 6 years of experience

March 16, 2009 2:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is about Recursive Technologies Inc. Someone posted his/her experience with this company. I like to share my experience with this company. The posting might be old one, but I accidentally saw that now, I like to comment on that.

Before I go into any details, I would like to point out few things:

All my educational qualifications are genuine.
All my experience shown on my resume is genuine.
When American consulate in Chennai investigated the facts mentioned in the h1 petition, they found out that everything I mentioned and the company put on the application is genuine. They issued my visa and came to US around 1997/1998.

I would like to share my personal experience with this company.

About the owner, being a consultant. I being a consultant myself, I would prefer to work with another consultant, who can understand our issues. Because he will also be facing the same kind of issues as a consultant. Rather than working for a purely businessman, who do not understand the issues that a consulant had to resolve on a regular basis.

About being on bench. In all these years of experience with this company and the profession of being a consultant, I have learnt few intersting facts of life. I tried my level best not be on the bench at all. I was succesfuly most of the times. Because I took the advice of the owner and implementetd them. I was advised to improve my communication skills, and was shown how to get that accomplished. I practiced and implemented them. I was advised to improve my team building skills and I practised and improved and have becaome a better team player. I was advised to improve my leadership skills and start taking more responsibilities and own up to those responsibilities. Yes, I researched, studied and implemented and improved my skills in this area too. I was also advised to keep abreast with the new technologies. I worked towards keeping myself well informed about the new technologies.

By practising and improving my skills has always helped me in landing the next project on time. I hardly had time to be on the bench. Because, I landed the job in my I first interview, most of the time. Even if I missed the first one, I got the second time. How I did it is another story by itself. The important ones to note here are, I did not waste my time watching Indian movies, Indian TV shows, chatting with Indian friends, wasting time online, instead I concentrated on 'how to improve my skills and abilities'.

I still try to practice and improve my skills, even after more than a decade in US.

Thanks to the owner of this company, for his advice. I have become a better person.

We humans have a tendancy of passing on the monkey to other's shoulders. We never want to accept that we are not perfect and need to improve or change some of our personality traits or skills or abilities. We always to find ways to blame somebody else for our mistakes or lack of knowledge or lack of a skills or ability. It took a long and hard time for me to understand that. but, once I understood that, there is no looking back.

There are good and bad in every aspect of life. Just because, some one had a not so good experience, does not mean that all is bad.

My personal experience with this company has been good.

April 27, 2009 3:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd like to mention that folks who complain about a certain 'contracting' company - please give a brief description about why you think/believe they are cheats. I know, for a fact, that all the posts about Marlabs are from one person. I myself worked as a consultant with Marlabs for three years and now am employed full time with a different company. Marlabs did have it's problems but I had no bonds, no problems getting paid and believe it or not, the total of 14 weeks I was on vacation (in the 3 years), I was paid every week. They might have changed a bit when they grew. Salaries were paid on time but once in a while, I'd have to call them up to say it's a few hundred dollars short of what I should be getting - and I would get it in the next paycheck. I have heard bad news from others and good from some others. So, please mention your problem and also why you feel a company is cheating you - helps everyone else make a sound decision.

July 21, 2009 5:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

E-zencomp is yet another cheat who takes money from applicant and most of the time does not even apply for H1B. The director of the company Annareddy is a big fraud.

September 16, 2009 11:36 PM  
Blogger sullan said...

SRG america is one among them, these ruthless people will be nice to you till you give intial amount for H-1B.Very BIG cheats, frauds. Lots of complaints on SRG america. The review on SRG America also not good from anyone.They come under a company called Bartronics.

September 30, 2009 1:54 AM  
Blogger sullan said...

All these desi H1N consultant cmpanies don't have any direct clients. Now the americans don't have jobs, and companys are under cost cutting. Not reallt too many new projects. So it is waste to come to US for atleast next two years, if you are really worried about your future.
Take example, SRG america: Software Research Group America (A Bartronics Company) is litterally bleeding. I heard they closed their office in New York. SRG has hundreds of consults on bench without job for many months. If a person on bench don't get job in three months I have seen SRG America cancel their H-1B and send the person to India. Very Sad. All you guys better stay away from this cheats, Fake, Fraud, Worst,ruthless animals. The trainng manager at SRG (a balled telugu guy fakes himself he is from IISC) abuses people verbally and another manager (COO) he is rice mill owner kind of look and behaviuor also threatens people. stay away from SRG America.

September 30, 2009 2:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Problem is the USCIS. They give all the power to the employer. These employers are scumbags and cheats. They bring their corrupt culture to the US and even though they live in a society which is less corrupt they still propagate those corrupt values and traditions. The USCIS should have a direct interface with the employee. There is also no dedicated grievance cell or division to help h1b employees once they are in the US. The punishments for h1b employers who flout rules or laws are mild at best. It is illegal to charge for h1b, but every single employer is doing this, it is illegal to pay below prevailing wage, but every single h1b employer is doing this. What america needs is to understand that human rights should be given to all humans and not just given to you if you are a US citizen.

March 06, 2010 5:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why blame only Desi consultants. I work for a American IT Product company. They paid for my first H1.
Also started my GC. Now, after applying H1 extension they have suddenly started deducting money from my paycheck for attorney fees.
So bottomline, once they know you are hooked they will just violate law knowing well you have too much on stake to go against them

March 07, 2010 5:15 PM  
Blogger KPI said...

Hi,
I would like to have more information about this Amar Trichy and Recuorsive Technologies. Can the person who commented about please email me kenpat06atyahoodotcom. This is absolutely critical for me so any help in this is highly appreciated.

April 12, 2010 2:01 PM  
Blogger KPI said...

Hi,
I would like to have more information about this Amar Trichy and Recuorsive Technologies. Can the person who commented about please email me . This is absolutely critical for me so any help in this is highly appreciated.

April 12, 2010 2:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi All,
One more fraud company to add - 'eTeam Inc, 1001 Durham Avenue, Suite 201, South Plainfield, NJ 07080
USA' URL - http://www.eteaminc.com/.
I have been cheated by this company for H1B Visa. This company has filed a H1B petition for me in the year April, 2008 & it is approved. They have taken 60,000 INR from me for this as a training fees. I have all the proofs for money that I have given them & infact I have a written document from them on their company letter head signed by their CEO, which states that they will refund my money once I serve them for 12 months. They have provided me document & I have an EAC tracking no. As per the USCIS website to track the status of petition, my H1B petition is approved.
Now they have not called me since 1.5 years for stamping, neither they are replying to my emails nor are they attending my calls.
I am trying to get my money 60,000 INR from them.
Please suggest me if there is any way to achieve this.

Thanks!

April 27, 2010 11:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People ----- DO NOT COME TO US. US H1B VISA PROGRAM IS FUC**ED UP.

ALL CONSULTING COMPANIES WILL DIE IN ANOTHER 3-5 YEARS.

June 15, 2010 5:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is one more Cheat Organization " UROOJ LLC " They do H1 transfers promising many thing and they wont be payi9ng on time. CEO and other admin people wont lifting the calls. wont reply to the email even at life taking situation.

July 12, 2010 9:52 PM  
Blogger Saurabh said...

I got a call from from MARLABS for a job interview but I guess it is a fake company right?

June 14, 2011 12:10 PM  
Blogger Saurabh said...

Got a call for interview from MARLABS is it fake company?

June 14, 2011 12:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a student pursuing dual degree in Computer Science in BITS Pilani with one year of experience in java as an intern in MNC and good GPA . I am interested in getting a job in USA.
I know it is difficult for a fresher to get a job through consultants but I hope I can find it atleast after 2 more years of experience. ( There are companies which directly came from USA to our institute to recruit freshers for H1-B). I want to know whether it is possible to get a job in this way through consultants atleast after 1 or 2 years, or is it better to go for MS(I am interested to go for MS only if first option is not possible )

I want to know whether it is possible to get a H1-B job by directly applying to their careers website or job sites instead of consulting companies.Will there be response that way ?

June 15, 2011 3:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a student pursuing dual degree in Computer Science in BITS Pilani with one year of experience as an intern and good GPA . I am interested in getting a job in USA.
I know it is difficult for a fresher to get a job through consultants but I hope I can find it atleast after 2 more years of experience. ( There are companies which directly came from USA to our institute to recruit freshers for H1-B). I want to know whether it is possible to get a job in this way through consultants atleast after 2 years or is it better to go for MS(I am interested to go for MS only if first option is not possible )
I want to know whether it is possible to get a H1-B job by directly applying to their careers website or job sites instead of consulting companies.Will there be response that way ?

June 15, 2011 3:44 PM  
Blogger Brijesh Nair said...

@Saurabh

Yes it is... Keep away from them...

Anonymous
It is always safe to go for MS and then find a job on completion of MS. It is possible to get a job in US after 2 years of experience in India through consultants. But be very careful...there are lot of bad consultants out there...Don't go with them...

June 15, 2011 7:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i filed my h1b thru nextalent and it got rejected at embassy. is there anything i can do about it? they are also being very unprofessional about providing responses and further indication of path the candidate can take. Where and how can we report this and what can be done about the matter ? true it is a big waste of our precious time and our life to deal with these irresponsible consultants who end up making a weak visa app, or have a bad history with the embassy, and in turn affects our visa. The worst part is their selfish attitude and how they take advantage of us once we are stuck in their clutches. It is very difficult to sue - bcos they are usually registered in the US -- and anyway, who has time to sue? - isnt our life and time more important than a battle with the cheats?

the more you fight them, the more time and happiness you lose.

So best is, avoid them. there;s no other way. it is sad but true.

January 17, 2012 8:38 AM  
Blogger Mainak Paul said...

Hello All,

Thanks a lot.Everyone's post had something for me to know.



Well,I have similiar query.
I was approached by a company called BN

Infotec and they said they are ready to file my H1-B petition and get my H1-b visa.



This is because they have one of their clients in India who were looking people of my profile.


On hearing thier Indian's Client name here ,It was a small Company who had offered me but i had to reject it.

So,if i join this company and work for 1+ year in India-by this time my Visa would be stamped



can anyone help or experiences with BN INFOTEC
Would BE GRATEFUL everyone in this forum to share similar experiences...

They also said they send 100 candidates every year on H1-B

April 27, 2012 9:26 PM  
Blogger MOTTS said...

Thanks for bringing to light such evil practices. I have documented my experience with one such desi staffing firm that uses fake resumes, promises green card and exploits internationals. I have also uploaded the fake resumes for reference. I have clearly described their modus operandi so no other innocent job seeker in the United States get scammed.

http://crazymotts.blogspot.in/2013/03/flexi-staffing-in-united-states-fake.html

March 02, 2013 12:48 PM  

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